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looked at it in a journalism lands, it has seemed to us, and this will probably offend most of you, but to be higher at to touche -- the higher education institutions have not covered themselves in glory. the enrollment and a financial aid of people are not being very strict because they want to enroll people with what the costs are really going to be and what the alternatives might be of coming to their wonderful places. what it means to take out a loan and how much is reasonable for a person to borrow. it is true that this is a matter of public choice, really. people have the right to make the choices they want. but i want to hear from you all whether there is more you think the university should be doing without stepping on people's right to send their kids to whatever school they think their kids should go to. is there more you all could and should be doing to help guide those choices and make it less about enrolling everybody in your institution? anybody who wants to talk should. >> i think a lot of the public outrage is what is happening in private higher education, not publi
>>> [ inaudible ] . >>> good morning 5:00 on this tuesday thanks for join us, i'm kristen sze. >>> i'm eric thomas. breaking news in redwood city a water main break on brewster avenue and warren street two homes are flooded. crews are using pumps to remove water from the basements of those two homes, fire officials tell us the water came from an eight inch diameter main most of the water flowed back in the storm drains no word of water service outages to the area. >>> the bay area could see travel delays and cancellations because of a powerful storm that pounded the pacific northwest now marching toward us. katie marzullo is live at sfo with the latest. >> reporter: that adds insult to injury when you are trying to get out of town for the holidays. if you are, you will be joining a crowd, aaa says more than 43 million americans will travel more than 50 miles for the holiday almost 5 1/2 million californians, 1.2 million will pass through sfo. take a look at this video, this could cause headaches the weather. this wet and windy storm passing through oregon and washington now. a
: it is a busy news morning. the u.s. is officially getting involved in the mideast fighting. secretary of state hillary clinton is en route to meet with prime minister benjamin netanyahu as the u.s. embassy attacked this morning. we have leland on the ground. we'll go to washington with the latest details on secretary clinton's mission. >> good morning. israel and terrorist leaders of gaza exchange fire president obama is dispatching secretary clinton to the middle east it is a hastedly arranged departure from cambodia where she is involved in the ongoing summit. she plans to visit israel and ramallah and egypt because u.s. considers hamas a terrorist consideration and prohibits contact it is relying on egypt and turk yeqatar to deliver its message to the hamas leadership. >> on the trip secretary clinton will emphasize the united states interest in a peaceful out come that protects and enhances israel's security and outcome to lead to improved relations to the civilians in gaza and reopen the path for israelies and palestinians so they can live in peace and security. >> some doubt secretary cl
. >> this is "cnn breaking news." >> and we begin with breaking news out of the conflict zone, an attack at the u.s. embassy in tel aviv in israel. details just coming in, but an israeli police spokesman says a security guard at the embassy was attacked with an ax. the attacker reportedly also had a knife on him. we know the attacker has been arrested. when we get more information, we will bring that to you. of course, this is all happening as israel and hamas at the tipping point of all-out war. the israelis carrying out 80 air strikes overnight with hamas fighters launching 95 rockets into israel. 38 more palestinians killed, bringing the death toll since last week to 111. cnn has confirmed secretary of state hillary clinton is heading to israel in the air at this very moment. tomorrow she will meet with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. she'll also visit egypt and the west bank city of ramallah. and while the two sides are trading cease-fire proposals, israel's ambassador tells erin burnett his country is ready to launch a full-scale ground invasion. we talk to our reporter in phnom penh. she's
you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. democratic leaders are in this budget fight to win it for the middle class. president obama is wrapping up his southeast asia trip. in thailand he was overheard requesting help from a higher power to solve the standoff in washington. >> yes, we're working on this budget, and we're going to need a lot of prayer for that. >> the president is being lighthearted about it overseas, but in washington he is deadly serious about keeping the upper hand in negotiations. fellow democrats are defending the line in the sand. here is house democratic leader nancy pelosi when she was asked if the democrats would accept a deal extending tax cuts for the wealthy. >> we've seen talk about a possible compromise that would leave rates the same but cap deductions for high income earners. that something that is acceptable? >>. no. >> not at all? no way. >> the president made it very clear in his campaign that there is not enough -- there are not enough -- what you just described is a formula and a blueprint for hampering our future. >> that is refreshing t
day for philly and the country. it was wow. that's "hardball" for now. thank you for being with us. "the ed show" starts right now. >>> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. america rejected paul ryan. apparently john boehner didn't get the memo. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> we have seen people talk about a possible compromise. is that something that's accepted? >> no. >> democrats aren't budging. the union breaks news on my radio show. >> how will you feel if the bush tax cuts expired across the board and we started over with the obama tax cuts? >> i think that would be acceptable. >> former labor secretary robert rush and bill pascrell on the latest movement on the fight for the middle class. >> a judge orders mediation for hostess and its employees. but make no mistake, the vulture capitalists will get their cut. i'll talk twinkie. >>> plus john mccain continues to spiral out of control over benghazi. >> the chickens are now coming home to roost. >> the banks revolt against elizabeth warren. >>> and workers are threatening strikes at wa
in the middle east. here are the numbers. you can also find us online. you can tweet us @cspanwj. facebook.ee spoc here is the have one of the washington post. secretary clinton will travel to the middle east as israel always risky choices on and gaza. clinton will travel to the middle east today to discuss ongoing violence in gaza according to white house officials she will talk with leaders in jerusalem, ramallah and cairo. issues leading the east asia summit that president obama is an app. the death toll in the gaza strip surpassed 100 on monday. with evidence that an egyptian a truce is in the side. ben rose, the deputy national security adviser for strategic administration at the white house says clinton and obama have been talking about this threat to the trip. -- throughout the trip. they discussed the way forward. they concluded the best way to the dance discussions with leaders is for secretary clinton to take this trip beginning with our close partner, israel. and clinton's middle east talks do not include hamas leaders. they say the secretary will not meet with hamas, that state
has departed heading for the middle east. we begin with christiane. welcome. give us a sense of this new announcement from israel. how long do you think israel is waiting to silt on this halt before it would move forward with sending ground troops in? >> well, what was reported was that a senior government official in the loop close to the talks has confirmed to me this morning that after the latest intense round of conversations and meetings between prime minister netanyahu and his inner security cabinet, which went on into the early morning hours here jerusalem time, there has been a decision taken to hold on the ground offensive. to give time, he says, limited time to make the diplomatic solution work. that is their preferred option. however, he also adds that israeli military is prepared and continues to make its preparations in case, if and when, a decision is taken to escalate to a ground war. in that case the military would be prepared to react immediately. but clearly what we're hearing and what we've been reporting over the last 24 to 36 hours is that despite the fac
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to fill in some more details on shifting u.s. economic and security forces toward southeast asia and the pacific. but the visit is overshadowed by other international issues in the spotlight. amongst the asia pacific community, that would be the battle over the south china sea which involves china cambodia and the philippines. while that's one of asia's biggest security issues right now, it's paling in comparison to what's going on in the middle east. fighting between israel and hamas continued again yesterday. the palestinian death toll is now up near 100 and many of those people are civilians. president obama and bill clinton both took to the phones yesterday, speaking with benjamin netanyahu of israel and president mohammed morsi of egypt. the main word they're using is de-escalate telling the two nations to scale back the violence but so far neither side is willing to cease-fire unless the other will bend to their demands. egypt does have a peace tree with israel which is why that country could be the key in pu
that the employer can use. now, i grant this isn't just a skills training program, but you've got to know how to write, to speak, to think. and i think a lot of our problem is that we graduate many students that don't necessarily do that well. and if the humanity majors, and they do not do that especially well, then they have got trouble. so, and they can't necessarily prove they do those things will. earlier someone said, i think you, jim, talked about the need for computer skills. my guess is that if the humanities majors, major really helped some sort of certification, that showed certain skills. i think that we haven't fully grappled with how to deal with our desire, our feeling that we need to have the humanities as a critical part of the university, we need to have the numbers, students take these. we believe that but we haven't grappled with how we can get these folks jobs. they are not going to get at the big corporations and less they have very good grades. and we can't necessarily, so far, it's not easy for them to establish they have the skills, especially if they don't have those
until we sample the bacon. thank you for joining us on "happening now." jon: "america live" happens right now. megyn: you people need help. fox news alert. welcome, everyone. reports circulating of a cease-fire in the middle east. a horrifying story unfolding on the gaza strip. that's where we begin with today's edition of american life. after nearly a week's worth of fighting, both people now say progress has been made. our own diplomats, including hillary clinton have raised through broker an end to the fighting. rockets rating down on israel, sending them running for their lives and israel's iran dome rocket defense system, inside the gaza city, a horrifying display. this is what happened after six men, accused of spying for israel, were pulled from a van and shot. a photographer was getting this picture of a body being dragged behind the streets by members of hamas. wheatland bedard has an update for us now. reporter: right now, the very latest as we think that there will probably be a cease-fire. those are the latest reports. indications out of cairo and out of israel that we a
thanks for waking up early and joining us, i'm kristen sze. >>> i'm eric thomas. first up april check on the weather. a lot going on. >>> already a lot going on as far as changes from yesterday. clouds are out there already, a few sprinkles outside of the north bay blue radar returns means light rain, santa rosa said we are getting a little now. it is light and in the north bay. the heavier rain still north with cold front moving into crescent city and eureka. the better part of today the rain is going to stay in the north bay the rest of us mostly cloudy with sprinkles, low to upper 60s bay, mid to upper 60s inland. >>> it was wet coming through marin county, san rafael, misting and wet roads about an hour ago. golden gate bridge relatively dry, roadwork on the north part of the span in the process of being picked up light traffic there. couple of issues, eastbound 580 at grant line accident blocking left lane. southbound 88 580 marina on and off-ramps, affected by an accident. roadwork eastbound highway 4 at loveridge for another half an hour. >>> we have breaking news from re
really? >> stephanie: yeah all of that attorney privilege she probably would have clammed up on us anyway. there was a lot of booze there. >> booze and dope apparently. >> yeah. >> say it ain't so. >> the best thing to come out of this little pot scenario was when steph mentioned this to me and said maybe i'm high. and i'm like no you can't just have it and be high. >> stephanie: you can't get a contact high. >> no, not just by having it there. >> stephanie: oh, boy. so this is very interesting. because there was one other thing that jill kelly referred to pallially broodwell as this criminal. that they were bothering me and why are they picking on me instead of this criminal. so that was probably what she was referring to right? >> maybe the email language was making her criminal in some way? >> stephanie: yeah. >> it's just curious to me who these women are and -- don't woe have better things to do? aren't we at war? >> stephanie: they all sound inseparatable. and then this, petraeus was a flirt with both men and women in the media to get favorable press coverage.
apprehensive this could be the final hurdle. you're talking about the presence or the arrival of u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton. there is no doubt the u.s. can play a very important role in this. it can exert a tremendous amount of leverage on the israelis to avoid a ground invasion of the gaza strip. while the u.s. does believe that israel has a right too defend itself there is a widening belief here among many, this is what is being communicated to the u.s. by egyptian officials, that a ground invasion and further military escalation will not solve this. we've been down this road before. >> go ahead, ayman. if you're still there. >> i'm still here. i was saying that they've been down this road before, used the military option back in 2008, and previously it hasn't solved the gaza problem and so many people are saying that this has to stop. to really think of a new paradigm shift in how to solve the crisis in gaza and the larger with the israeli/palestinian conflict. >> yesterday we were talking about the americans passively having too light a footprint in the region, against the back
clearly before us, the reality is these people are kvetching, they're belly aching -- >> i like the yiddish. >> they're incapable of understanding what's going on with the broader agenda of america democracy and here is the real deal. people with far less do far better and far more with what they have than those who have a whole bunch. even if the bible that they love to quote, jesus said those who have been given stuff and can't make use of it will have what little they have taken away from them. the reality is the republicans had an enormous universe of affection and goodwill given to them by people who actually don't even share their interests. the 47% that mitt romney was beating up on, a lot of these people voted for him. a lot of white women voted for mitt romney. a lot of the people in the red states voted for mitt romney and received the benefits. what are you complaining about? you're complaining about your mirror. shatter the mirror, look out into the real world, look through the window of reality that most of us have to grapple with, and then you get closer and more i
, thanks so much. >>> joining us from tel aviv is nbc news correspondent martin fletcher. from your perspective, what are israeli authorities saying about the potential of a cease-fire coming this hour? >> reporter: well, you know, the israelis have been saying all along, pouring cold water on to the reports which have come from arab sources that an agreement and a truce was going to be signed this evening. there was one radio report that said senior israeli officials said it would happen, but otherwise, there's been silence. the only thing that's come out from the israeli sources is that the deal is not wrapped up and that there is still a long way to go. very important issue. as ayman mentioned. i think the key is the sound bite from prime minister netanyahu. he's calling for a long-term solution through diplomatic means if possible. what he means if it isn't possible there's still the ground force invasion on the ground, it's still an option until that's a deal. there isn't yet a deal. it very close, it appears, but it appears it's not as close as the sources who are saying that
end on an upward trajectory, getting the best possible people around him as confederates in the u.s. senate, strong ministers in the cabinet around him. go for it, mr. president. good isn't great. great is great. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead -- still conservative after all this year. governor romney spent the whole gop primary season catering to the right, telling immigrants to self-deport, bragging that he'd get rid of planned parenthood, saying he'd cut everyone's taxes. so, how did that work out for him? here's how mr. romney was recently spotted pumping his own gas in california. no secret service, no advisers, and no words on whether he used regular or premium. romney thought he'd be on the road to the white house by now. instead, he's just on the road. meanwhile, the president is heading home on air force one after meeting with world leaders. he didn't pump the gas for that plane. here's the point. elections have consequences. the american p
the world today. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you tomorrow night. thanks for being with us. >> well i am stunned. >> mitt romney, kick him when he's done. >> did you see the sunday shows yesterday? >> hitting their nominee. >> we have to show we're sere serious. we have to like them first. >> we would never talk like that. >> there's not a lot of people defending mitt romney. >> when you're in a hole, stop digging. he keeps digging. >> newt gingrich, i think it's nuts. >> they have to do something. >> we have the fiscal cliff. >> the cliff. >> the cliff. >> whatever that means exactly. >> whatever you want to talk about it. >> the math doesn't work otherwise. >> i don't think it works. >> how is that going to go over with the tea party? >> paul ryan and others will not win this issue. >> here's a news flash. >> the elections have consequences. >> we just had this election. >> it's already starting 2016. >> we're already talking about 2016. >> marco rubio. >> chris christie is off and run running. >> you have been wearing that fleece a lot. >> i'm going to die in thi
things out there. help us win this game. >> tonight was probably the worst nightmare. >> thumb it up. warriors in overtime in dallas. in recent years this was the game that golden state would have found some way to lose. different group. fourth quarter 2 minutes left. curry with a runner here. he had 31 points. 90-88 golden state. would answer here one-on-one with him and rises and fires. we are tied. barns to drive. own rebound passes out to some son. hold for one last shot what are you doing? no. huge mental mistake. that gives dallas 1 final chance to win it but carter in overtime and curry lead the way to drive and 17 point and 19 board. warriors nice road win. >> thanks larry. >> "nightline"next. >>kx@ñ ♪ did she use that line your place or mine when you danced with rea ♪ did she use that line your place or mine when you danced with her real slow ♪ ♪ tell me cheater cheater >> oh, getting raunchy tonight. white trash ho. >> the w-t-h. >> mm, mm, mm. >>> we have all seen the pictures, paula broadwell with her husband and children who has been labeled the wth
, which is the party president morsi used to be a part of. the fact is in the end he is focused more on egypt's needs than necessarily hamas' needs. >> when we talk about the -- you're talking about the money, we're talking about what the u.s. gives, $2 billion annually, the imf has $4.8 billion in the reserve fund to help egypt and senator lindsey graham over the weekend was very forceful saying we are watching you. they know full well that aid will be cut off if they don't act accordingly trying to broker a peace deal, correct? >> i would say it's more than just trying to broker a peace deal. i think it's fulfilling its obligations. in the first sense its international obligations. one thing the president morsi understood is if hamas continued to do what it was doing and if the pressures on him led to him breaking the peace treaty with israel, then it wasn't just american assistance that would be put at risk. it would be all the assistance internationally. all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the econo
off the personal portfolio management errors before they cost another dime for us. today we got two examples of what could go wrong in banking. if you are like me, i have both and hq and pc household printer. to finish at $11.71. best buy. the big box retailer, i have not once but twice done in the last six months. closed at $11.96. two household names that you have been lured into only to have hopes dashed into unmitigated disasters. >> the house of pain. >> what went wrong? hewl hewlett-packard was an accounting scandal. both seemed to shock investors however, if you watch this show, you should never have been in these stocks. i told you that these companies were total dogs. this morning the company was acquired for $10 million and this was stunning news. if you own hewlett-packard you were in the crosshairs of two victims. you have to sell sell sell. i kept a hand-written note, accounting irregular layerities equal sell. hewlett-packard has got to be sold. i have to tell you that you should be selling the company for ages. i believe that the culture of the company has been broken
. here is sal. >>> steve mentioned the winds may be an issue on the bridges and causeway so use care. also this morning we are looking at the commute on 101 that traffic looks good approaching the split, it is 5:00 let's go to the desk. >>> they are dealing with two water-main breaks. we have alex savage there right now, what is going on right now, alex? >> reporter: people in pittsburgh will be waking up without running water and we will show you why, right here. this is that broken water-main and you can see crews are working on it to try and get access and obviously do the repair work necessary to get the water back on. this is the crews in the city of pittsburgh and they are working between york and cutter. this water-main break is running and at this point, both of the streets in this area are dry. we will show what you this looked like when we first got here as crews were pulling water out of the street. the call was about 8:00 this morning and it sent water rushing down the street. we talked with a man who lives a couple of blocks away and he said at the height of this break
press. three israeli civilians have died. let me bring in nbc's martin fletcher in tel aviv for us and "washington post" columnist e.j. deion. mar martin, let me start with you. it sounds like, at least in the last couple of hours, they're getting closer to a deal. where do things stand? >> reporter: that's right. as you said, it is very encouraging signs. the fact that not only hillary clinton is coming and that the egyptian president said what he said and the israeli radio quoted their sources but also hearing seniors, including the arab league, suggests that leadership of various countries and organizations are coming to the region for an announcement which the vetting is that this evening hillary clinton will be meeting israeli prime minister and the betting is at that time the ceasefire announce nounsment could be made. so it's encouraging but at the same time i should point out that there are other reports that the army is gearing up even more than before on the border with gaza. that could be last-minute posturing by the israelis both israel and hamas will be until the very
. >> you know, some political dust up. >> and let's not -- >> with policy -- >> let's not use the public air waves to treat people like they're stupid. senator mccain is using the calls to block the confirmation in the senate where the confirmation would take place. take a listen. >> she should've known better because we now know there was information from classified sources which clearly indicated that this was an al qaeda affiliated attack, as well. and the real issue here is not susan rice, it is before, during, and after the total failures that this administration engaged in, which has caused the deaths of these four brave americans. >> no, no, no -- >> no, i believe senator john mccain thinks there's major failures. your point is an important one that the optics of this were terrible. old white guys taking out a young, african-american woman, but john mccain and lindsey graham say this isn't about optics. he may push forward with this. >> the thing is, though, it's about a campaign that they lost. that's what it's about. if it were about policy that mattered moving forward, that's f
to be a monster online retail season. please use deep in the money call options out several months if you want to play this one. i fear gigantic selloff related to multiple stocks and amazon is the highest multiple stock i follow. we've seen a huge downturn in stocks that pay dividends. now we got to question whether that may be phased in over time, too, hence the nice rise in at&t. i think they can continue if we really get a fazed in compromise for taxes and dividend income. the final tax beneficiaries are mlps. they've been selling off hard. somehow they would lose the tax favored status. just rumors, mind you. any sign a deal could be done would remove the uncertainty. lnco is down a couple points because of this fracas, paid 7.6% yield. did not catch the bottom in the stocks. you had to do that friday. that's okay. catching bottoms is very, very difficult. recognize that things may have changed. it's what's most important. how about the other side of the ledger? the spending cut. i think the biggest winner is lockheed martin. first because of the dividend, it yields 5%. the current rate o
the world today. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you tomorrow night. it's thanks for being with us. >>> republicans are going to have to stop trying to sound moderate and reasonable because they are making rush limbaugh freak out. on second thought -- >> all hell broke lose on the republican side. >> republicans seem to be at a critical cross road. >> they are tripping over themselv themselves. >> there is no conservative movement. is rush limbaugh's country gone? >> yes. >> the horror. >> we have a cultural problem. >> why would so many republicans be upset about this? >> here's a news flash to the republicans. >> mitt romney was not our best candidate. >> well i am stunned. >> mitt romney, kick him when he's done. >> did you see the sunday shows yesterday? >> hitting their nominee. >> we have to show we're sere serious. we have to like them first. >> we would never talk like that. >> there's not a lot of people defending mitt romney. >> when you're in a hole, stop digging. he keeps digging. >> newt gingrich, i think it's nuts. >> they have to do something. >> we have the
's worth the effort of leaders from the united states in the region and interfashionly. >> chuck joins us now from cambodia where he is traveling with the president. chuck, a lot of moving and fast moving parts here. what can you tell us? what's the latest? >> i can tell you what aides will say in answer it to that question off answer. certain things you can say on camera. i got a more blunt answer which is somewhere in between. they don't feel like talks are stuck but they aren't moving fast enough. there's concern in the obama administration that not enough is being done. there's concern hamas doesn't feel that it's ready to stop the rocket fire into israel which as far as the united states is concerned and ben rhodes made this clear, that's the number one priority before nip other part of this negotiation is done. when you think of the time line, the president up late after all of the summit. he's here for a couple of summits. gaza has overshadowed all of that. he was up late. he was up with morsi and netanyahu. morsi is the conduit into hamas. the united states doesn't have any direct
. i'm chris matthews in philadelphia. let me start tonight with this -- it used to be the democrats who were nasty to their losers. jimmy carter, walter mondale, mike dukakis, al gore, they all had to skip town to avoid the abuse they faced after losing. the fact is democrats don't forgive candidate who is lose. they try to erase them from history. they shoot their wounded. but watch what the republicans are doing this very minute. they're taking romney apart like vultures on a wounded antelope. want to make your bones as a prospect for 2016? just take a piece out of the guy who went down in 2012. get a piece of romney and wave it in the air. newt gingrich, bobby jindal, they're all doing it. our guests are both msnbc political analysts. howard, i have to tell you, this is something like i've never seen before. let's start with these clips of the sunday talk show circuit. republicans ran with mitt romney remarks that the president had won because of gifg gifts to minorities and young voters. take a look. >> i just think it's nuts. i mean, first of all, it's insulting. this would be
been charged with plotting to kill americans and destroy u.s. targets overseas. the fbi says the men planned on carrying out their attacks by joining al qaeda and the taliban. one of the men served in the u.s. air force. they were arrested for plotting to bomb u.s. military bases and government facilities. the fbi says the men had planned to depart this month to carry out plots in afghanistan. >>> 7:14. the united states now expanding its involvement in the middle east crisis. as ktvu's alison burns reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom, secretary of state, hillary clinton, now on her way to jerusalem to help try to work out a cease-fire. alison? >> reporter: dave, this is new this morning. egypt's president, who has been taking the lead in the negotiations, now says he believes a cease-fire is imminent. secretary of state, hillary clinton, will be meeting with israel's prime minister in about five hours in jerusalem. then she heads to the west bank to meet with palestinian leaders and finally to chiro rowe to consult with -- cairo to consult with egyptian officials. the death t
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